Thanks for your views.. We live in Siem Reap. Ive been telling her many many times money is the root of all evil and I wont submit to be the payer of everything. If they wants to have it their way then the guests are supposed to pay their gifts as money in return for the investment. Her mother is s strong controller here.
I had almost forgotten the whole marriuage thing for the most part until she started to remind us every day to every week after some new friend from time to time keeps woindering why we arent married yet. We got this lease of 5 xtra month now. But it might be as well we will separate way before then. We both seem to yearn our freedom somewhere deep inside and seem to live together mostly for the affection. Cant say theres much about love within.
However like I said my term was the guests would pay back any and all invetment made by my money for the weddings. If they wont budge to it. I cant see it happening except by your example. Also how can I control the costs? And I feel we can have it much cheaper if we compete the arranger firms Problem is the ridiculous costs of the wedding party. You can reduce it, but the usual thing is 3 days tents, sound system, servicing people, live Khmer traditional band, food and drinks.
Then comes the personal part, a ring, flowers, dresses for the pair, the parents, the witnesses and the brides maids. On top donations to the monks of the pagoda. If you would have the money I would say give in and pay, they will need to squeeze the hell out of it to pay for a decent in the eyes of the villagers wedding. But there is something else that makes me advise you to run away! You say there is hardly love involved, more affection. And deep inside you two would love to be free.
Then make that the most important part of your life, you don't marry for affection, as it is not enough to stay together long time. If there is no love there is no chance for success. I know senior men like me cannot expect love from a younger partner in the beginning, but there must be a mutual feeling of wanting to stay together for a long long time.
If not, stop it in time and let both return to freedom. You won't regret it.
I feel folks should marry for love. Also, when you keep hearing that the villagers wonder and want to know when you're going to marry and the respect and saving face aspect of it all, yards yards What they are really asking the parents is, "Hey, when are you going to get that big check you said you were going to get from this fool?! Theyre not short of cash, just got some luxury cars and stuff from business profits. Im not hurrying to marry her. Just extending the care free time from time to time. You have to understand not all societies have the same values, not all people have the same start, and not all women want the same things.
Let's assume a woman from a poor village has the chance to marry a rich man that will take her away from poverty and give any children from their marriage a far better chance in life; is it so wrong for her to marry for those things? Sure, I get it and absolutely would not blame her. Shes moving out tomorrow morning.. All tonite was just like before when the good times rolled.. We did all the same cuddling and stuff as so many nights during our cohabitation.
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And I even shed some real man tears that emotional it got from my side. Still tomorrow morning she is moving away in to a room she says she has already paid the rent. This movement was originally started by this 3 weeks life in false expectation I would be moving after this work overseas which later revealed to be a SCAM. I know now for sure, our corresponding wont end bluntly here. Even if our domestic partnership ends she will still be there forever for me and I for her. You are right, it's a good thing right now. There is a wise saying: If a woman wants to go, let her go If she is meant for you, she will come back If she is not meant for you, it was time to part.
Also don't forget the pressure from her parents, I sometimes feel sorry for Khmer girls that they have about nothing to say, their parents consider them as owned and tell them what to do, even after they have been adult for quite some years. As Khmer girls don't want to stand up against their parents they can have a strong pressure that makes them insecure and confused.
Take that in consideration please. Man tears, well done, you showed your feelings, as men should also do. I have been shedding tears on many occasions in my life, it is perfectly ok to let your feelings take over for a short time! I know a few guys whose got Khmer girlfriends and most of them have mentioned the marriage thing. Anyway, getting married should be for love. Not just for affection or a mutual enjoyment of cuddling or whatever. I know that some girls, especially from the countryside, like to marry guys for an ensured stable future.
Obviously not all girls are like that. But paying for the girl… holy cow, no way. If I was a guy… I understand the tradition of dowry and so on, but people, when the family and girl start expecting you to pay for a business, a this, a that, whatever I do love the title: Dating single Khmer girls. It feels like there should be another thread for "Dating not-single Khmer girls: I shed my tears already last night with her and Im already up on my feet stronger but maybe not any wiser lol.
Im a lovefool, always goind my heart head on to next affair just to crash boom bang over and over again. Anyhow, no paying no gaining. I stopped being the ATM and shopping cart for loong time ago.. Dunno then if that contributed partially to this recent break up or just the girls frustration when we werent really advancing on getting the funds and taking care of the weddings. I just dicovered theyre the most curviest and cutest kind of race in all SEA. I could easily fall in love with good natured and hearted caucasian woman as well..
But theyre mostly group souls which means my kind of introvert finds it extremeley difficult to get in chatting distance. Tinder is one way which unfortunately is mostly full of go go girls.. I keep my fingers crossed the naext one I bump to will me more matured and kind hearted who likes handsome shy guys and picks me when I can least expect it. I am totally not being judgy or anything, please remember that!
Yes, maybe stopping your ATM vibes and not moving forward to a marriage might have contributed to the split. There are girls who want to get married ASAP. How insane is that?! May the curvy force be with you! You sound funny and personal Well, I am a poor puppeteer and part time English teacher in PP. I'm in the process of getting a Theatre for Development programme going, but it's taking longer than I thought it would so I am teaching again as well just to keep a roof over my head in the meantime.
In class this week the reading piece is about Love and Attraction mostly about how chemicals make people fall in love and stupid stuff about child bearing hips and it just put me off and the kids are super disappointed that my flirting examples consisted of me mocking it instead of giving them anything useful. I suggested trying Youtube to get actual advice. Maybe that'll help a shy guy too. If you find a good one - do share. Not sure if it was intentional, auto correct, or a Freudian slip.
Not sure who said that, but it's an interesting comment.
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When I was in China my Chinese friends explained the situation there as such; No dowry, as such, but there was a check list - if the guy didn't score high Car, OWNS apartment, washing machine way back in the day the requirements were a washing machine and something else, can't remember the other thing now , good job, etc. This goes for Chinese guys firstly and then the expats.
So in China, yes, wealth plays a big role in choosing your spouse, but it isn't just aimed at foreigners. It's aimed firstly at the Chinese themselves. To me, as expat, it did feel like the guys had to be "someone" to get a girlfriend - either a rich Chinese guy or an expat guy.
I think my cynicism took root there. Obviously marrying or go out with someone with status or whatever is nothing new in the West either, but it's not that much of a prerequisite. I was shocked the first time I found out about the guy having to pay for the girl. That just freaked me out. Joe might know better than me - I am assuming that the Khmer guys also pay, right? It's not just a thing where you catch an expat and he pays Maybe he pays more??
I am not an expert on this one. Asian cultures are very much geared to getting your daughter married before I am still in contact with my old Chinese boss. We get along really well. So on my birthday this year I turned 30 this year, okay, 25, 25 with shipping she sent me a message about it being time for me to be engaged. I replied with a "haha" but she persisted! As in, it's time, you're old enough now, etc. The conversation went on for quite a while with me trying to wangle my way out of the "Come on, get engaged already" thing.
Thing is; she is quite open-minded, but the tradition is still there: You're going to die alone with cats if you're not married by, at the latest, At least I wasn't offended. It's kind of hilarious. Anyway, we've got to be sensitive to the culture and not mock or criticize it just because it doesn't fit in with our way of doing things. I don't agree with it, I think it encourages gold digging, lying, marriages for convenience, etc. Or what I might perceive as the wrong reasons.
Anyway, time to be a functional adult. Marika, sorry to say but you have not the slightest clue about SE culture of marriage. The latter is not so strange and not even endemic to SE Asia, is it not so that in some western countries the family of the groom pay for the festivities? That's the same stuff. I myself have made the difference between greedy MIL's asking ridiculous dowry I lives in Thailand for 8 years, I know the traditional reasons for "sin sod" and those original good reasons are trampled by greedy feet.
Example, originally it was for a girl's first marriage, supposed to be a virgin and leaving parents meant less work force in the farm. Nowadays you see bar girls getting married, after being working 10 years as a prostitute, being married before with a Thai and having two kids, still the greedy family asks for dowry, and not a little bit! Compared to that the Khmer version is moderate. I have developed a system that makes family, girl and me happy.
I do not pay for the village to be drunk during 3 days, I will do a modest wedding, not expensive. I will support the girl, my girl, with an amount of money that is hers, she can do with it what she wants, if she wants to give it to her mother, ok, if she is clever and puts it in the bank even better, but it's up to her, it's her money. It's not a salary as some people sometimes mention, it is a dowry as they want but I refuse, so it is split up in monthly payments.
It has the extra advantage that if the girl leaves me the money stops Just focus on making her feel comfortable around you. Be a fun and friendly guy that she enjoys spending time with. All of the hotels I stayed at in Cambodia are Guest Friendly so you wont have any problems bringing a girl home with you. The second best way to meet Cambodian girls is just by walking around and talking to people. The good old fashioned way still works just fine!
Get a clean shave. Throw on a nice outfit and hit the town. Be sure you have several cards with your number on it!
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Can I text you sometime? Everyone wants new friends! If the girl is busy working or surrounded by friends I will often slip her my number in a discreet manner. Understand that many girls are shy and they are embarrassed to be seen exchanging numbers with some strange foreign guy who randomly approaches her. These girls must guard their reputation in society and the work place.
Even if a girl is interested she might not want to be seen giving you her number. Her fear is that people will think she is a slut who dates many foreign men. Text me later and we can chat more. When dealing with conservative foreign girls I only ask them for their numbers when our conversation is private. This can be difficult at times but you just have to wait for the right moment and jump at the opportunity. Of course, if you just want to skip the bullshit and get laid there are plenty of hookers in Phnom Penh.
Massage shops and beer bars are your best options. Beer bars along street are a good time. There are also freelancers in all the major night clubs. Some of them are real stunners too so there are plenty of great options. Cambodia is a fun and beautiful country. I look forward to spending more time there and I would like to date a Khmer girl for a while. They seem like very sweet girls who are eager to please their man. The girl in the pink is cute! Only shy in public? I find Khmer girls very attractive do to their tan skin and curvy features.
Btw, you might want to be careful of using celebrity photos. I totally understand why she would be upset. I never said they are hookers or that I slept with them. I never use any of my own photos on this website. Just pulled them from the web. Just use them as eye candy to break up the walls of text.
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Thanks for the comment that is a valid concern. Much more relationship orientated unlike the media often portrays it. Siem Reap soo many markets to get lost at and friendly girls to take out for a bite to eat. Every massage place has hot girls hard to get a real massage. Sihanoukville awesome beach friendly fun people check out the open air bars.
P P very sketchy but beers are cheap. All Cambodia is cheaper, few girls throwing themselves at you or asking for money, but still friendly and willing to date. If I was looking for a serious girlfriend and not just a girl throwing herself at me seeing dollar signs Cambodia would be the number one destination. Thanks for the comment Wayne! I had a blast in Cambodia and I will definitely go back soon.
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Missed that on my last trip unfortunately. I love a nice tan Khmer girl with big sexy lips. Haha thanks for clearing that up! Sorry that just went over my head. Even more so then Vietnam. Are most hotels guest friendly? I want to be close to the action but not next to blaring speakers until 5AM. I have now thoroughly evaluated Thailand and Vietnam. When there is some chemistry and when its late enough you can take them home. The beer garden was full of locals no other farangs. Check my location review of Siem Reap. The tourist visas are expensive and you need to jump through all kind of hoops… Total pain in the ass!
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